Ryan Barber, from left, Marius van der Waat , Zvi Reznic, Dennis Scheftner and Nicholas Verheen attend the 73rd Engineering Emmy Awards, presented by the Television Academy at the JW Marriott Los Angeles at L.A. LIVE Hotel on Thursday, Oct. 21, 2021 in Los Angeles. (Photo by Jordan Strauss/Invision for The Television Academy/AP Images)